Curse

Sujoy · May 07, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Lord Oranos

So let me get this straight... a person that does not have the time to get "rare" skins that dont actually affect the game deserve them as much as someone who was willing to work for them?

Wtf?

everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.

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Originally Posted by Westofeden

I'm so sick of hearing this. /cry I can't farm ecto because I'm to lazy to cap VwK and pay 4k for a totem axe. Its not hard to make the W/Rt build and its even easier to use it and it only takes about 20-25 mins a run. If you can't do that then go farm greens or anything else. There are millions of ways to make a profit in this game.

Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.

big papi · May 07, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Who said i have trouble getting gold? And i dont even need to farm rare skins, if i do want one i will simply purchase it. But thing is, i dont like rare skins because most of them are just rare, but not good looking... Take Crystalline sword for example... it is rare, it is expenssive, and it is so damn UGLY! I wouldnt use it even if i get a perfect one for free. Same as Serpent axe, it is rare but Kanaxai, Chaos, and so many other ones simply look better... So why should i give so much money for it? Neither it looks better or has better stats... Oh yeah, i forgot - STATUS... The reason why ppl buy rare and expnessive items... So they can feel better when they enter mission/explorable and then team-mates start asking what weapon is that. How about you prove yourself with good play, and not with ecto stacks and million worth items?

sorry but most people who collect rare/expensive items just bury them in storage without every flaunting or ever really using them.....there is a bunch of different ways to plays guild wars and for some collecting rare/expensive items is there thing so there is no need to flame them

Sujoy · May 07, 2007, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by fb2000

dude chill out and let us have fun in the game we too paid for, in the way we decide to be best. I'm very sorry that you have trouble getting ingame gold, or lack the common sense need to farm the rarer skins (ofc, the farmable ones i mean), feel discriminated for low rank or w/e, but I dont really think we can help you...

and yes, i do believe games like this need VARIETY just as you said it yourself. and yes, that includes a variety of skins/items, and variety of those would also mean different grades of rarity of obtainable items (does that even make sense ^_^ soz, kinda late).

and stop pointing out how good a deal you had please.. i bet some of the people that posted in this thread have made quite a bit better ones.

if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.

ctbear · May 07, 2007, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.

oh yeah everyone paid for the game then why someone has the phoenix emote and im stuck with that stupid deer?
Please fix your point.

Personette · May 07, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.

Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.

I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.

Oofus · May 07, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Haven't we seen this thread like a thousand times before already?

Seriously, some of you people who just want FoW armor and perfect Crystalines, on a rank 12 character the minute you create it, that can finish a mission just by clicking on the “Enter Mission” button should really just consider moving yourselves over to something like NeoPets. My daughter used to love that game when she was 10 and it required no skill and little effort. Seems perfect for what many of you people want. So much anger and hatred coming from a lot of you “I want a free Dwarven Axe” crowd members. Sad realy.

/waits for mods to close yet another “haves/have-nots” thread.

Axe Addict · May 07, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by Oofus

Haven't we seen this thread like a thousand times before already?

Seriously, some of you people who just want FoW armor and perfect Crystalines, on a rank 12 character the minute you create it, that can finish a mission just by clicking on the “Enter Mission” button should really just consider moving yourselves over to something like NeoPets. My daughter used to love that game when she was 10 and it required no skill and little effort. Seems perfect for what many of you people want. So much anger and hatred coming from a lot of you “I want a free Dwarven Axe” crowd members. Sad realy.

/waits for mods to close yet another “haves/have-nots” thread.

Bravo Bravo well said

Bryant Again · May 07, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07

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Originally Posted by Personette

I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.

I love this post.

Drop of Fear · May 07, 2007, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwarven_Axe

Try knowing what you're talking about?

"Dwarven Axes are a random drop. They are extremely rare (probably the second rarest item in the game after Crystalline Swords) and are only found in high-level areas, such as Sorrow's Furnace, The Fissure of Woe, and the chest in the Hall of Heroes."

the above means:
hoh - reward chest. gold. pvp item
sf and fow (and even uw btw) - quest reward chests (rastigan, forgemaster etc..) purple.

so, if u think HM will increase your chances to drop tasty purple dwarven axes off killroy chests, go for it, that's the only way u can "farm" these axes, and pretty much everyone stopped doing it months ago as the value sank already

Sujoy · May 07, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

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Originally Posted by Personette

I am so sick of this attitude - I saw it when I was teaching at a private university. Kids who basically think, "I'm paying a lot of money to be here, so you'd better give me an A" - as though the price of admission somehow included a spotless transcript. Or covering their asses when they decide to get drunk instead of study and fail exams.

Guess what? You can pay to play, not to win. For better or for worse.

I didn't say to hand me over an A, what's the merit in that? Its when someone says that he or she deserves something more then others, that's just not true.

You know what this attitude is? It's socialism, not everyone shares YOUR capitalist ideals, why do you think there is so much shit in our societey, why do you think there was a Great Depression (this might be too far).

For you sir, the rich get richer and the poor have none, don't give up your day job.

I can pay to play, but I don't want other players how to play.

I also despise your attitude.

PS: You're a teacher, at a private University - go to a public institution, you might find real hard working people.

Guildmaster Cain · May 07, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Sujoy, why do you keep whining about this stuff, personally attacking persons on their comments, and telling ppl not to say how others should play the game, but dictating ur own rules on them yourself?

All what you are saying comes down to this:
-Because we all paid for this game, we should get 'rare skin' drops everywhere. Not only the people that spend 3 hrs+ getting either the money for it or farming it themselves.
Well first of all, all GW-players have a FREE CHOICE. Wether it is they want to spend their time to farm, or actually play the game is all up to themselves. If they want to show off with rare skins, they need to work for it. You do not get a free A+ for buying a game. Besides if rare skins drop everywhere, they wouldnt be rare anymore, would they?

Westofeden wasnt telling people how to play the game, he said that if they really want a lot of money that badly, there are countless methods of acquiring money fast. If they rather play the game, do missions and stuff, then actually spend some time per day getting money, why do they bother with money at all? A collectors weapon and 7.5k worth of money should be enough to get through a campaign. Maybe some more money for skills and runes. 7.5k! 7500g! If you actually play (play and NOT farm) in Hard Mode and with full team, you actually get half of that amount already in 1 hour. For just playing the game! So money isnt needed for GW, and all people that are complaining they do not have the time to spend on farming, but do want the high-prized items, need to get their priorities straight. Besides if high-prized items were cheap, they wouldnt be high-prized would they?

I expect some personal insults back adressed to me. Please do, it shows character.

6am3 Fana71c · May 07, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01

Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers

Personette · May 07, 2007, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

I didn't say to hand me over an A, what's the merit in that? Its when someone says that he or she deserves something more then others, that's just not true.

You know what this attitude is? It's socialism, not everyone shares YOUR capitalist ideals, why do you think there is so much shit in our societey, why do you think there was a Great Depression (this might be too far).

For you sir, the rich get richer and the poor have none, don't give up your day job.

I can pay to play, but I don't want other players how to play.

I also despise your attitude.

PS: You're a teacher, at a private University - go to a public institution, you might find real hard working people.

I personally am very much in favor of capitalism well-tempered by socialism - but the socialist systems that I know and admire don't aim at eliminating the gap between rich and poor, just assuring the poor a fundamentally humane quality of life. Not mass distribution of luxury goods. To make the GW analogy - making sure everybody can have max armor and max weapons, not rare skins or 15k armor.

It's a little obscene to make an appeal to the poor when what you're asking for are unnecessary perks.

NinjaKai · May 07, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

It's an inevitable fact that weapons which are constantly farmed will eventually become available to all.
Honestly it's a game so many people are so focused on having a unique character when in truth for every one person like that there are 10 others with the same type of armor and weapons.
If like me your a casual player you can't afford the time to play constantly. And what little time I have I prefer to spend playing. Thus, the only option when it comes to nice looking weapons is to simply wait until availability becomes more wide spread. It's then that I buy the weapons I desire.

Guildmaster Cain · May 07, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers

Totally agree with you on this.

You only need around 10k (1.5k armor, runes and skills) per character to actually get it to full strength to beat the hardest opponent.
Suppose you farm non-stop, you wont enjoy the game very much. Some day you wake up, and realize you have been playing a MMORPG (Mass Multiplayer Online RPG, some disagree to call GW this, but read ahead) alone. You realize there are no friends left to boast to and only random unfamiliar faces, since they all fled from your farming behaviour. Only people to talk to are others, like-minded farmers, who have exactly the same titles to boast about and rare stuff to show.

I myself farm from time to time. It is not really for the money, since I already enmassed great quantities of rare items in my adventures. Mostly it is just for exploring the limits of skills and character.

Chris Blackstar · May 07, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

First, Ha-Ha to the OP, as Nelson would say.

Second, who cares. I would never sell or buy a weapon for a 100K + ectos, ever. No matter how rare the skin, I would just ask were they fouind it and either farm it myself or go for a chest run search and hope for the best.

As for poor players, a lot of them bought their gold from e-bay, and the rest farmed it or earned by selling it to suckers who bought their gold from e-bay. Don't blame the farmers, blame the cheaters/a-holes who got away with selling gold on e-bay and the traders/players who took advantage of this cheat. There the reason we see items selling for 100K+ectos.

fb2000 · May 07, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Since i dont have time or patience to enter argues like this one, i will only say this: it is sad that 90% players only worries about how much wealth they have, while there is SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game. Sure, you payed it, and no one has a right to tell you how to play the game, but one day you will wake up, start your PC, enter the game, and realize that there it isnt anything left to do. You'll have full storage of ectos, all rarest pets and weapons and no idea what to do next. And then you will see that it would be better that you enjoyed the game all that time, talked to your friends and help new players, instead of mindless farming all the time. Cheers

what makes u think people like me spend most of their time on gw "farming"? well i cant say for everyone, but I have done pretty much everything I could think of in gw... beaten pve multiple times, done pvp, won halls, won some gvgs.. been there done that, Im not interested in it anymore. so i get flamed for actually having done everything you find "SO MANY good and intresting stuff to do in this great game", and for trying to keep my attention to gw?

and for the record, im sure as hell not rich, am just trying to find myself some stuff to do. atm, its getting rare skined items..

PS. i just thought about it, i dont really think people that actually collect stuff flash them to the party like you think... that is done by newbies tbh.. i only ping it if i have some friends with me, becoz most of them know what im after, and its like an achievement to finally have found it.. dont see anything back in that

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

everyone payed for this game you ass, so shut up.
Don't tell people how to play this game, some people have better things to do then take 20-25 mins to get 1 or 2 ectos.

think before u post dude.. Id hide myself if i was you..

Bryant Again · May 07, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

if someone lacks the common sense of spending all his free time on the computer to go to the same map and kill the same mobs over and over again until he gets a certain item... GOD HELP YOU!

Anet is trying its best to nerf solo farm and spread more 8 man party playing. You fall into the group Anet is trying to get rid off, shoo shoo.

Don't you tell me how to play mah game, boi!

Wait, didn't you...

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

Don't tell people how to play this game

...Hm.

AnnaCloud9 · May 07, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Well I can't help but add my 2 cents worth before this closes

After one acquires said 'rare' skinned weapon, does one spend the remainder of her/his GW life trying to prove how said 'rare' weapon was actually acquired?

Honestly, I could care less who has what in their hands. In towns, it's the armor and color schemes of such that catch my attention, and the unique combinations of pieces from all 3 campaigns. As long as you're having fun and contributing to the goal(s) of the group you're in, have at ye you Dwarven Axe wieldin' fool!

Or Collector's Spiral Rod castin' rodent!

You can tell me up and down that you farmed your entire life away in GW and finally got the rare weapon of your dreams, but it won't make a bit of difference to how I'll respect you and your contributions to my group when there's always going to be the possibilty that you're FOS anyway. Found it? Yeaaaaah, sure. And let's just see you prove that lil Missy. When ANet allows us to hold weapons in towns, that's the day Guild Wars becomes a game of status and in-your-face envy. Thankfully, oh thankfully, this isn't the case.

Don't forget - just because you, the 'rare' weapons trader, think the weapon is 'rare', doesn't make it desirable. And no one is handing out free 'rare' skinned weapons. You talk of how easy it is to make this farming character, and how lazy people are for not doing it...when people don't have to now, and through normal gameplay go out and get it themselves. What exactly is wrong that concept? Oh...it makes you and you're 'rare' farming build and locations not so special after all. You play your way, they'll play theirs.

Have at ye you Dwarven Axe wieldin' fool!

creelie · May 07, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9

And no one is handing out free 'rare' skinned weapons.

Speak for yourself. When I farmed hydras and goofed around with friends in FoW, I frequently took non-max FDSes and chaos axes to post-searing Ascalon and gave them to the newbies . . . and I ran into numerous people doing the exact same thing. There's an enormous community of nice people in GW who mostly have no reason to post on forums.